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There’s no point in discussing either subject because almost everyone has already made up their minds and decided what they believe on both subjects. Talking about it is NOT going to change anyone’s beliefs. It WILL create anger and hostility. The only way anyone changes is from personal experience, not from discussion.
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I am good with causing anger and hostility. That is a method of control to silence people
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